John Payne

Notes:

Lived in Richmond County, and often confused with his nephew John who also lived in Richmond after he came of age. John deeded land to his brother William in 1695, with no signature or acquiescence of a wife. Brooke Payne was not able to account for him after 1702. He speculated that it was possible he was the same John Payne that died in St. Anne's Par., Es. Co., 1711, leaving the widow Susannah. There is no evidence that the John Payne of Es. Co. left any children. (Payne, pp. 58, 59).

Notes:

Brooke Payne noted that some private records show Richard as being born on 12 May 1633 at Round Towers, Northumberland County, Virginia. However, he doubts that there were any English settlements in the Indian District of Chickacoan, from which Northumberland was later created, that early. Therefore the date and location are suspect. However, that John Payne did have a son named Richard is evidenced by the deed by John Payne to his son Richard in 1655 of a heifer named Coll, and by a later deed by Richard Payne to George Payne (his brother) in 1696 of 60 acres on the north side of Pepetick Creek, given by John Payne to his son Richard. Barring these two deeds, there is a complete absence of Court records relating to Richard.

He left two sons, William and John. (Payne, p. 53)

Notes:

See pages 44-51 of "The Paynes of Virginia" for more information on John Payne, Sr. He appeared to be a ship owner, as he was paid for provisioning and transporting Burgesses from Lancaster to James Town. He may also have been a carpenter, as in 1656 the county court ordered him to make for the county one pair of stocks and a whipping post.

His date of birth is approximate and is based on an affidavit concerning delivery of pork to Jamestown which states his age as "44 years or thereabouts". This was probably a visual estimate of a Clerk of the Court rather than based on his own oral evidence.

As suggested by the comparatively late date of the Court records relating to his two younger sons, it is not improbable that he was married twice, and that Margaret was his second wife. John Payne had the following children--Richard, John, William and George. It is believed that he had also one or more daughters; but since his will cannot be found, although it is recorded that he made one, it is practically impossible to identify any such daughters.

(Medical):Y DNA Results, FTDNA Haplogroup:

R1b1

A direct male descendant volunteered to have his DNA tested. The results can be found at www.ysearch.org, under the user ID #B3C9R, and the FamilyTreeDNA Kit number is 48173.

More information can be found at the following website, part of the PAYNE DNA, which can be found at the following URL:

http://papayne.rootsweb.com/dna-project/

The kit was #48173, and this Payne group was assigned to lineage 16.

The members of R1b are believed to be the descendants of the first modern humans who entered Europe about 35,000-40,000 years ago. Those R1b forebearers were the people who painted the beautiful art in the caves in Spain and France. They were the contemporaries (and perhaps exterminators) of the European Neanderthals. R1b is the most common Y haplogroup in Europe - more than half of men of European descent belong to R1b. Fourteen of the 30 most common haplotypes in the YSTR.org database are typical of R1b.

John married Margaret ???. Margaret was born about 1619; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]