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Michael Kocher

Male Abt 1850 - Yes, date unknown


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Michael Kocher was born about 1850 in Indiana (son of Michael Kocher and Mary M. Cramer); and died.

    Notes:

    POSSIBLY born to Michael Kocher and a previous wife, Catherine, per 1850 census.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Michael Kocher was born on 9 Sep 1809 in Stuttgart, Neckarkreis, W?rttemberg, Germany; died on 7 Aug 1875 in Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana; was buried in Star of Hope Cemetery, Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana.

    Notes:

    Lived on a farm near Huntington, Indiana

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1850 Census
    Indiana, Huntington County, District 52, 114
    Enumerated 18 Sept 1850
    924-924
    Michael Cochar 40 M Farmer 1200 Germany
    Catherine Cochar 30 F Germany [Was this a first wife, or is the census in error?}
    Mary Cochar 12 M (sic?) Germany
    Sarah Cochar 10 F Germany
    David Cochar 8 M Germany
    John Cochar 2 M Germany [Shown on FindAGrave as a son of Michael Kocher and Mary Cramer, not of Michael and Catherine...also shown as born in Seneca County, Ohio on Find A Grave]
    Michael Cochar 1 M Indiana

    1860 Census
    Indiana, Huntington County, Rock Creek Twp
    Enumerated 20 July 1860
    Page 181
    1245-1263
    (Indexed on Ancestry.com as Rocher)
    Michael Kocher 52 M Farmer 3000 140 Wertemburg
    Mary Kocher 38 F Penn
    David Kocher 15 M Oh
    John Kocher 12 M Oh
    Michael Kocher 10 M Ind
    Joel Kocher 8 M Ind
    Christian Kocher 6 M Ind
    Catherine Kocher 9/12 F Ind


    1870 Census
    Indiana, Huntington County, Rock Creek Township
    Enumerated 4 July 1870
    Page 1, Stamped 171
    3-3
    Kocher, Michael 61 M Farmer 15,000 13,300 Wertenburg
    Kocher, Mary W F Keeping Houe Pa
    Kocher, Michael 20 At Home Ind
    Kocher, Joel 18 M W At home Ind
    Kocher, Christine 16 F (sic0 W Ind
    Kocher, Mary 10 F W Ind
    Kocher, Susannah 8 F W Ind

    Michael + Mary M. Cramer. Mary (daughter of Christian Cramer and Maria Catharina Werner) was born on 12 Mar 1821 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 18 Nov 1904 in Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana; was buried in Star of Hope Cemetery, Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Mary M. Cramer was born on 12 Mar 1821 in York County, Pennsylvania (daughter of Christian Cramer and Maria Catharina Werner); died on 18 Nov 1904 in Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana; was buried in Star of Hope Cemetery, Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana.

    Notes:

    Could she have been a second wife? The 1850 census shows Michael Kocher as married to a Catherine, born ca 1820, in Germany. The eldest children, which are a good match to the children enumerated with Michael in Mary in 1860, were also shown as born in Germany versus Ohio or Germany. The Census MAY be incorrect.

    Shown on FindAGrave as Mary Anna Margaretta Cramer Kocher.

    Ancestry.com - Indiana Deaths shows her as Mary M. Kocher, age 83, died in Huntington, Indiana. The source of this record is the book A-7 on page 39 within the series produced by the Indiana Works Progress Administration.

    Notes:

    Married:
    Clarence E. Cramer indicates they were farmers near Huntington, Indiana.

    Important to find Marriage Record so it can be determined which children shown with the family on the 1860 census were born to her and Michael, and which MAY have been born to the (first wife? named?) Catherine Kocher shown on the 1850 census.

    Children:
    1. Mary Kocher was born about 1838; and died.
    2. Sarah Kocher was born about 1840; and died.
    3. David Kocher was born about 1845 in Ohio; and died.
    4. John Albert Kocher was born in Jul 1848 in Seneca County, Ohio; died on 26 Aug 1920 in Fort Wayne, Allen County, Indiana; was buried in Lindenwood Cemetery, Fort Wayne, Allen County, Indiana.
    5. 1. Michael Kocher was born about 1850 in Indiana; and died.
    6. Joel Kocher was born about 1852 in Indiana; and died.
    7. Christian Kocher was born about 1854 in Indiana; and died.
    8. Catherine Mary Kocher was born about 1859 in Huntington County, Indiana; and died.
    9. Susannah "Susan" Kocher was born about 1862 in Huntington County, Indiana; died about 1935; was buried in Fairview Cemetery, Servia, Wabash County, Indiana.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Christian Cramer was born on 30 Jul 1788 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 31 Aug 1788 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania (son of Johann Helfer Cramer and Henrietta Sophia Neudig); died on 12 Jul 1863 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; was buried in Pleasant Ridge Cemetery, Seneca County, Ohio.

    Notes:

    Clarence Cramer indicates that his baptismal sponsors were Christian and Christine RUHLMAN. He said that after his marriage, Christian and Catharina lived near the Stone Church. He moved to Fostoria, Ohio, in 1837. (p. 57).

    Dean Cramer writes that he lived on Uncle Daniel's farm next to Helfer. Moved to farm in Fostoria, Ohio. Dean thinks that Christian's 9 children were probably born in Fostoria, and lived mostly in Indiana. The source for most of Christian's descendants was Louis Haley

    (Research):

    Census Listings:

    1850 Census
    Ohio, Seneca County, Seneca Township
    Enumerated 27 Aug 1850
    Stamped 20
    292-292
    Christina Cramer 63 M Farmer 1500 Pa
    Catharina Cramer 60 F Pa
    David Cramer 25 M Farmer Pa
    Amos Cramer 18 M Farmer Pa

    1860 Census
    Ohio, Hancock County, Washington Twp, PO Arcadia
    Enumerated 30 July 1860
    Page 177 Stamped 284
    1241-1209
    Christian Cramer 71 M Farmer Pa
    Catherine Cramer 65 F Pa

    Christian married Maria Catharina Werner on 5 Apr 1814 in St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania. Maria (daughter of Johannes Werner and Juditha ???) was born on 15 Oct 1791 in Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 3 Dec 1791 in Brodbecks, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 15 Aug 1877 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; was buried in Pleasant Ridge Cemetery, Seneca County, Ohio. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 7.  Maria Catharina Werner was born on 15 Oct 1791 in Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 3 Dec 1791 in Brodbecks, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania (daughter of Johannes Werner and Juditha ???); died on 15 Aug 1877 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; was buried in Pleasant Ridge Cemetery, Seneca County, Ohio.

    Notes:

    AKA Catherine Warner.

    Notes:

    Married:
    Rosalie Sommer attributes some differing children to this couple: Charlotte, Henry, Catherine, David, Amos and Joel.

    Children:
    1. Margaret Cramer was born about 1813 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 20 Jun 1904; was buried in Renicker Cemetery, Lagro, Wabash County, Indiana.
    2. Elizabeth Cramer was born after 1814 in York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    3. Helfer Cramer was born on 10 Oct 1816 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 29 Dec 1816 in St. Joseph's Lutheran Reformed Church, Brodbeck, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 19 Jun 1915 in Wabash, Wabash County, Indiana; was buried in Renicker Cemetery, Lagro, Wabash County, Indiana.
    4. 3. Mary M. Cramer was born on 12 Mar 1821 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 18 Nov 1904 in Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana; was buried in Star of Hope Cemetery, Huntington, Huntington County, Indiana.
    5. David Cramer was born on 25 Nov 1824 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 15 Aug 1901; was buried in Saint Patrick Cemetery, Lagro, Wabash County, Indiana.
    6. Annas Cramer was born on 12 Mar 1832 in York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    7. Amos Cramer was born on 12 Mar 1832 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 17 Sep 1854 in Indiana; was buried in Renicker Cemetery, Lagro, Wabash County, Indiana.
    8. Joel Cramer was born on 16 Feb 1833 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 1 Apr 1833 in Brodbecks, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 8 Aug 1912 in Andrews, Huntington County, Indiana; was buried in Riverside Cemetery, Andrews, Huntington County, Indiana.
    9. Catharine C. Cramer was born about 1834 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Cramer Cemetery, Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Johann Helfer Cramer was born on 22 Sep 1753 in York County, Pennsylvania (son of Daniel Cramer and Anna Margaretha Schmidt); died on 22 Sep 1833 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania.

    Notes:

    The given name Helfer/Helfrig/Helfrick/Helfrecht is said to mean "helper" or "help-right."

    Clarence E. Cramer, in a preliminary draft of his manuscript titled "The Family of Johan Helfer Cramer (Revolutionary War Pension w-2762)"---which was presented at the John Cramer Family Reunion, Bascom, Ohio, August 22, 1943---stated that "Helfer was our first native-born American paternal ancestor...born and spent his early life in Codorus Township of York County, Pennsylvania." His listing on FindAGrave instead shows that he was born in Manheim Township, York County, PA. An abstract of his Revolutionary service simply states he was born in the year 1753 in York County, Pennsylvania, names of his parents not given.

    A Helfer Kramer is referenced in the index of the book "Pennsylvania German Pioneers" by Strassburger/Hinke. Gen Pub Co, Baltimore, MD, 1966. (Vol I 628,631,634) Don Billet of the York County PA genweb was kind enough to look up the information referenced in Vol I for me, since Vol I was not available in the San Antonio Public Library. He sent me the following email: "List A Ship, Phoenix, Qualified 1 Oct 1754, Phila, Johan Helfergramer, pg 628. List B, Johann Helffer Cremer, pg 631 and List C, Johann Helffer Cramer, pg 634. No women or children listed this ship." Perhaps these are relatives? Edith Beard Cannon shows that a Lorentz Cramer was also listed aboard the Phoenix, the passengers being described as 11 Roman Catholicks, 25 Menonists, Swissers, 300 Souls. 554 Freights. From Franconia Palatinate, Zweybreck.

    According to a biography of one of his children, published in the BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY OF VAN WERT COUNTY (OHIO), "Helfar Cramer came from Germany and took an active part in the American Revolution, and after the war settled in York County, PA, where he died, leaving seven children."

    The book "Nine Months In York Town" by James McClure chronicles the period between September 1777 and June 1778, when the Continental Congress met and the Articles of Confederation were signed in York. Clarence E. Cramer writes that "York, a small town of 1,600 in 1775, was now the Nation's actual Capital...At York Horatio Gates was welcomed by the American Congress, Von Steuben came, and La Fayette reported. It was in York that Count Pulaski stopped and had his recruiting station. And here Congress remained through the darkest hours from Brandywine through Valley Forge to Monmouth. One York citizen, Hon. James Smith, signed the Declaration of Independence, six others became Generals in The Revolution..(and) some historians claim that York county sent more soldiers to the Revolutionary Army than any county in all of the 13 Colonies. When one considers that all of these came from this one small town and its surrounding county, despite the Friends and Mennonites unwilling to fight upon religious principles, others holding faithful to their Oath of Allegiance rather than to their homes, and a subtantial percentage of "Loyalists," something of the feeling of Helfer Cramer, his family, friends, neighbors and fellow citizens may be understood."

    In Henry James Young's 1937 Compilation, "York County, Pennsylvania in the American Revolution," Vol. VI, p. 365, the entry for Helfer Cramer reads as follows: Priv. PA. Militia. Annual allowance $26.66. Received $66.65. Placed on roll 1/7/33. Start of Pension 3/4/31. Age 79. Act of 1832. On page 409 of the same book, a letter from the Veterans Administration to S. B. Bellows, dated Je 16, 1934 was transcribed as follows:

    Helfer Cramer - W.2762

    "Helfer Cramer was born in the year 1753 in York County, Pennsylvania, names of his parents not given.

    While residing in said York County, he enlisted July 10, 1776, served as a private in Captain John McDonald's company, Colonel Swope's Pennsylvania regiment [--"the Flying Camp"--] and was discharged January 15, 1777. He served in Captian John Miller's Pennsylvania company, from September 16, 1777 to November 15, 1777.

    He was allowed pension on his application executed December 12, 1832, then a resident of Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania.

    The soldier, Helfer Cramer, married April 5, 1785, Sophia Neetiz or Neteiz; the were married by "Parson Shrader," a Clergyman of the Lutheran Church of York County, Pennsylvania.

    The widow, Sopia Cramer, was allowed pension on her application executed, December 5, 1838, then aged seventy-six years and living in York County, Pennsylvania. She died about July 1840.

    Their children are referred to but Henry is the only one whose name was stated; he was in York County, Pennsylvania in 1840. "

    Edith Beard Cannon, in "Genealogical Reports for The Historical Society of York County, Vol. XXIX, p. 62, Evidence of the Cramer Families of York before the year 1850 REVISED" published 1943, cites the service listed above, along with the additional service as follows: listed as a private in the First (Captain John Shearer) Company, Seventh Battalion, according to an arrangement of Militia officers, June 17, 1779, and served in this rank when it the became the Eighth Company of the Fifth Battalion, according to an arrangement for 1780 and 1782.

    Helfer, along with George Kreps, assisted with the pension application for Andrew Finfrock. Andrew was a brother-in-law to Helfer, married to Barbara Neudig. Cramer and Kreps swore that they say Finfrock in the Army as a soldier at Fort Lee.

    Clarence E. Cramer writes that "The 1779 Tax Records show Helfer Cramer then owned a farm of 124 acres in Codorus Township (see page 12), and his mother is listed seperately as "Widow GRAMER" with the parental acres." He is continously listed as "Single" and with the 124 acres, in the 1780, 1781, and 1782 tax records. A second record of the 1782 appraisal shows he owned 2 horses and 3 coes, also an addtional farm of 66 acres. (p. 52). Cramer further indicates that "It would appear that Helfer and Sophia owned three farms in all, the 124 acre farm in Codorus Township acquired in about 1777 or 1778, perhaps adding 66 acres to it; the 109 parental acres from his father; and 51 acres in Codorus Township bought in 1812. Helfer's taxes were well above the average of his community. (pp. 56-57). They lived not far from the Stone Church.

    After the conclusion of the war in 1783, Helfrich continued to continued to serve in the local militia. In a return for September 27, 1788, Helfrich Cramer is a private in the Seventh (Captain Philip Cramer) Company, Fifth Battalion. According to a return of the election of Militia Officers, February 21, 1794, Helfer Cramer was chosen Lieutenant of the Sixth (Captain George Creps) Company, Second Regiment of the Light Horse.


    Edith Beard Cannon, in "Genealogical Reports for The Historical Society of York County, Vol. XXIX, pp. 52 - 53, Evidence of the Cramer Families of York before the year 1850 REVISED" published 1943, cited the following deeds

    (2R, 422) April 15, 1805. Helfrich Kromer of Codorus Township, yeoman, and Sophia his wife: to George WERNER; for (Pounds) 49.10.0: 8 acres, 140 perches, part of tract of 109 acres 126 perches surveyed ) October 14, 1768, to Daniel Kromer in pursuance of an application for 100 acres dated September 13, 1768, now the property of the said Helfrick Kromer as it appears by released of his brother Daniel Kromer bearing date Aug. 29, 1782, given to his brother Philip Kromer with Christina his wife conveyed the same to Helfrick on April 9, 1791.

    (2W, 374) March 26, 1812. Helfrich Cramer of Codorus Township, yeoman, and Sophia his wife: to George WERNER: for $1.00: confirmation of 2R, 422.

    (2X, 374) April 2, 1813. Abraham WEBER and Catharine his wife: to Helfrich Kramer of Codorus Township, yeoman: for (pounds) 256: 51 acres 51 perches in Codorus Township.

    (3F, 484) December 26, 1817. Helfrich Dramer of Codorus Township, yeoman, and Sophia his wife" To Peter LONG: for $120: 3 acres, part of a tract of 109 acres patented to grantor May 22, 1810, called "Cramer's Addition."

    In September, 1815, Helfrig Cramer was the administrator of the Estate of Anna N. Cramer, widow, of Codorus Township. Tenet in $200. Inventory filed March 11, 1816. Account filed December 24, 1816, shows a balance of $9. 41 1/2. Source: Cannon, Edith Beard "Genealogical Reports for The Historical Society of York County, Vol. XXIX, p.48

    The York County German Gazette, October 1, 1833 had the following obituary: "Am 22sten September, im Codorus Township, Hr. Johannes Helfer Cramer, ein alter Revolutions Soldat, ist gestorben, im 80ste yahr seines alters. Der versterbne diente im Krieg der Vereinigten Staaten gegen Grossbritannien, und erdulte hunger und blose eines siebenyahrigen Krieges."

    The English York Gazette, October 15, 1833 published his obituary as follows: "On the 22nd ult. in Codorus Township, Mr. John Helfer Cramer, a soldier of The Revolution, died, aged 80 years. He served and endured hunger and privations of a seven years's war, that his country might be free."

    Both newspaper articles were originally transcribed by Clarence E. Cramer in his 1943 manuscript about the Cramer family.

    His tombstone read "Hier ruhen die gebeine von JOHAN HELFER Cramer, gebohre im September, 1753 gesterben den 22sten September, 1833, im 80 iahr seines Alter Ruhe sanft in deiner gruft Bis duch iesus Stemine ruft"--in English this woud read "ohan Helfer Cramer, born Sept., 1753 - died Sept 22, 1833 In this 80th Year, Rest peacefuly in your grave Until Jesus's voice calls you." The inscriptions on the stone were copied by the Reverend Doctor Paul D. Yoder and Clarence E. Cramer, sometime prior to the 1943 publication of Cramer's manuscript about the family of Johann Helfer Cramer.

    FindAGrave indicates that Helfer was 80 years 0 months and O days old as of his date of death, so it would appear that September 22 was both his birth and death day.

    Johann married Henrietta Sophia Neudig on 5 Apr 1785 in York County, Pennsylvania. Henrietta (daughter of Johannes Neudig and Elisabetha ???) was born on 19 Sep 1761 in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 12 Oct 1761 in St. Paul's Church, Upper Hanover, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania; died on 20 Nov 1839 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  Henrietta Sophia Neudig was born on 19 Sep 1761 in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 12 Oct 1761 in St. Paul's Church, Upper Hanover, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania (daughter of Johannes Neudig and Elisabetha ???); died on 20 Nov 1839 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania.

    Notes:

    FindAGrave shows her maiden name being spelled Neudig versus Neidig.

    Democratic Press, December 2, 1839 (York)

    Died. On the 20th inst., in Codorus Township, York County; Mrs. Sophia Cramer, wife of Helfrick Cramer, aged 78 years, 2 months, and 4 days."

    An identical article ran in the Pennsylvania Republican on December 4, 1839

    Both newspaper articles were originally transcribed by Clarence E. Cramer in his 1943 manuscript about the Cramer family.

    Her tombstone read:

    Hier ruhen die Gebeine von Sophia Cramer eine gebohre Neudig, Sie starb den 20sten November, 1839. In einem Alter von 78 Jahr, 2 Monate und 4 tagen. Sept 16 1761 - Nov 20, 1839 78 years, 2 months, 4 days. The inscriptions on the stone were copied by the Reverend Doctor Paul D. Yoder and Clarence E. Cramer, sometime prior to the 1943 publication of his manuscript about the family of Johann Helfer Cramer.

    Edith Beard Cannon, in her "Genealogical Reports for The Historical Society of York County, Vol. XXIX, page 49, Evidence of the Cramer Families of York before the year 1850 REVISED" published 1943, shows an Administration Bond (SN, 155) was filed August 6, 1840 for the Estate of Sophia Cramer of Codorus Township, Henry Cramer, administrator. This book is lost. On Page 67 of her book, she has the following information that appears to have been related to his revolutionary pension"

    State of Pennsylvania, York County, Personally appeared before me the Subcriber a Justice of the peace in and for said County Francis SHAFER and Henry CRAUMER Credible Witnesses who being by me duly sworn According to law saith that Sophia CRAUMER the Widow of Helfer CRAUMER a United States pensioner of York County Pa. died in York County on the 20 day of November Annon Domini 1839 and that Christian CRAUMER and John CRAUMER & Julian WERNER and Henry CRAUMER and Margaret SHAFER and Lorence CRAUMER are the only sons and Daughters of Sophia CRAUMER deceased and Legitimate Heirs 1840. John W. HETRICK Henry CRAUMER Francis SHAFFER (Endorsed: Sophia Craumer widow of a U. S. Pensioner. Filed August 5, 1840)


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    Notes:

    Married:
    The DAR Patriot Index shows the following: Kramer, Helfer b 1753 PA died 9-22--1833 PA Pvt PA PNSR WPNS Married to Sophia Neidig. His baptism was by Jacob Lischy.

    Clarence Cramer's family history shows that they were Married by Parson Shrader, Lutheran Clergyman. Dean Cramer notes this was probably a reference to Johann Daniel Schroeder, pastor of St. Matthew's, and instead has the date of marriage as 5 May 1785.

    Children:
    1. Juliana Cramer was born on 17 Feb 1786 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 11 Mar 1786 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died about 1786 in York County, Pennsylvania.
    2. Catharina Elisabetha Cramer was born on 6 Apr 1787 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 20 May 1787 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died between 1811 and 1816 in York County, Pennsylvania.
    3. 6. Christian Cramer was born on 30 Jul 1788 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 31 Aug 1788 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 12 Jul 1863 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; was buried in Pleasant Ridge Cemetery, Seneca County, Ohio.
    4. Juliana "Julyana" Cramer was born on 28 Mar 1790 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 5 Apr 1790 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 10 Feb 1858 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone Church Cemetery), Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania.
    5. Johannes "John" Cramer, Sr. was born on 25 Aug 1791 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 10 Sep 1791 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 29 Jun 1856 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; was buried in Cramer Cemetery, Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio.
    6. Anna Margaretha Cramer was born on 21 Sep 1793 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 3 Nov 1793 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Shaffers Church Cemetery, Seven Valleys, York County, Pennsylvania.
    7. Henrich "Henry" Cramer was born on 18 Oct 1795 in York County, Pennsylvania; died on 12 Aug 1865 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone Church Cemetery), Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania.
    8. Johann Lorentz "Laurence" Cramer was born on 10 Aug 1798 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 2 Nov 1798 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 13 Oct 1840 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone Church Cemetery), Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania.

  3. 14.  Johannes Werner was born before 1751; and died.

    Johannes + Juditha ???. Juditha was born before 1751; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  Juditha ??? was born before 1751; and died.
    Children:
    1. Johannes Werner was born on 2 Dec 1771 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 25 Dec 1771 in Saint Jacobs (Stone Church Cemetery), Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    2. Johann Christian Werner was born on 24 Oct 1775 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 19 Nov 1775 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    3. Catharina Werner was born on 9 Jun 1778 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 5 Jul 1778 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    4. Elisabetha Werner was born on 2 Feb 1784 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 4 Apr 1784 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    5. Jacob Werner was born on 16 Mar 1786 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 17 Apr 1786 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; and died.
    6. 7. Maria Catharina Werner was born on 15 Oct 1791 in Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 3 Dec 1791 in Brodbecks, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 15 Aug 1877 in Fostoria, Seneca County, Ohio; was buried in Pleasant Ridge Cemetery, Seneca County, Ohio.