William Payne, Jr.

Notes:

"He was five feet, five inches tall, quite slender, not a military man at all, though Washington Irving said that he did more than any other man to keep up the financial end of the army in Virginia."

There was to be a meeting, in the Fall of 1755, in Alexandria, Fairfax County to chose a delegate to represent the county in the House of Burgesses at Williamsburg. As it rained on the particular day appointed Col. George Washington (23), who was just a few month's "flush with the laurels of Braddock's Field," assumed that the meeting would be postponed. Washington's regiment at the time was still at Fort Cumberland. Next day he showed up for the meeting and was outraged that it had in fact gone ahead and that the assembled gentlemen and planters had made a selection without him being present. There was a heated argument between him, representing the losing candidate, and William Payne, representing the successful. In impetous anger the Colonel referred to William Payne as something other than a southern gentleman. The small and slender William (31) instantly took his hickory walking stick and lashed out in the public square. He knocked George Washington down. Washington's officers immediately whipped out their cold irons. Washington stopped any further developments. This settled the matter for the day. Next day Mr Payne received a polite message that Washington wanted to meet him at a certain tavern nearby. He went with the feeling that there was to be a challenge to a duel. Greeting him in a friendly way Washington ushered him to a table at the back where there was a bottle of wine. He apologised for what he had said, saying he had no right to speak like that. William was deeply moved. Where upon the two men drank toasts to each others health and became friends. Some time later William visited Washington's home at Mt. Vernon. Washington introduced his wife, Martha, to the man who, he said, had the courage to attack him even though he, Washington, was a much bigger man." (Excerpted by Ken Harvey from THE PAYNES OF VIRGINIA, based on Parson Weems's "Life of Washington.")

William married Susannah Clark on 3 Feb 1747 in Pohick Church, Truro Parish, Virginia. Susannah was born on 17 Dec 1721 in Prince William County, Virginia; died on 22 Feb 1771. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Married:
Marriage performed by Rev. Charles Green. "GENEALOGIES OF KENTUCKY FAMILIES" from the Registrer of the Ky Hist Society Vol O-Y, (Baltimore Gen. Publ.-1981)

1. Alicia Payne was born on 17 Dec 1749 in Fairfax County, Virginia; died on 27 Feb 1837.
2. William Payne was born on 14 Feb 1750 in Fairfax County, Virginia; died on 23 Sep 1813.
3. Mary Payne was born on 23 Feb 1753 in Fairfax County, Virginia; and died.
4. Benjamin Clark Payne was born on 28 Dec 1755 in Fairfax County, Virginia; died on 29 Apr 1789 in Fairfax County, Virginia.
5. Penelope Payne was born on 7 Dec 1757 in Fairfax County, Virginia; died on 2 Aug 1785.
6. Anne Payne was born on 4 Jul 1759 in Fairfax County, Virginia; and died.
7. Devall Payne was born on 1 Jan 1763 in Fairfax County, Virginia; died on 21 Jun 1830 in Mason County, Kentucky.

Notes:

His will dated 20 June 1769 (16 Sept 1776) named his sons in the order William, Edward, Sanford, and John, and mentions his wife and daughters, but not by name. His wife was to live on the plantation on which he lived if she so chose, otherwise, his son Edward was to possess it. Edward was named as sole executor, and was to have the care and education of testator's son John. (Payne, The PAYNES OF VIRGINIA).

William married Alicia Jones on 1 Feb 1712 in Richmond (Independent City), Virginia. Alicia (daughter of Edward Jones and Alicia Samford) was born about 1686; died on 31 Oct 1760 in Fairfax County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Alicia JONES, the first wife of Wiliam Payne was the daughter of Edward JONES. Born Richmond Co., VA will daed 1715. Edward Jones married 27 Aug 1679 S. Farnham Parish Reg. to Alicia LUNN. Edward Jones was the son of Robert JONES, Fleet's Bay, Northunberland Co., VA. For more info on the children of William Payne, see pages 228 through 230. Also the Jones family from page 229.

Notes:

The earliest recognized court reference to William Payne (b. ca. 1652) is found in Rappahannock County in 1673, when "William Payne, son of Mr. John Payne", recorded the earmark of his cattle---"three slits in each ear, and the middle slit cropt." This refence and the composite of the 17 traditional versions abstracted int he Introduction under the title of Genesis of the Virginia Families, particularly the 6th and 10th, taken in conjunction with the fact that the 1673 reference cannot be made to fit any other William Payne found int he Northern Neck records of this period, and that the McCartys, Lees, Fitzhughs, and Popes continued to be neighbors of or to intermarry with the Paynes of Leedstown and their descendants, are accepted by Brooke Payne as satisfactory proof of the identity of the said William Payne as the son of John Payne. Particularly convincing to the author is the fact, shown by documents referred to in Version 10 and still preserved in the family, that Captain William Payne (b 1755) recognized his relationship to the Paynes of Fairfax County near whom he lived.

According to the PAYNE'S OF VIRGINIA, William was a merchant, planter, Justice, and probably shipowner. Mr Payne was apparently acquainted in England with merchants whom he represented in Virginia. He was probably the Captain Payne who in 1680 delivered letters from England to Col. William Fitzhugh of Westmorland County.

His will (dated 31 Jan 1697/8) referred to money that he had on deposit in Newcastle [England].

William married Elizabeth Pope in 1691 in Westmoreland County, Virginia. Elizabeth (daughter of Humphrey Pope and Elizabeth Hawkins) was born in Jun 1667 in Virginia; died in 1716 in Westmoreland County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

In THE PAYNES OF VIRGINIA, the author notes that the badly defaced tombstone of Elizabeth was discovered in 1907 beneath the tomb of her second husband, Captain McCarty, and read "(Here liet)h the body of Elizabeth (daught)er of Humphrey Pope, Gentleman, by (Elizabeth) his wife, first the wife of (William Pay)ne, Gentleman, to whom sh(e bore two so)ns and two daughters, and last(ly of) Daniel McCarty, Esq., to (whom she) was married 19th October (1699 and b)ore four sons and four daugh(ters). She was born ___ of June 1667."

After Elizabeth POPE PAYNE lost William PAYNE she married [on 19 Oct 1699] Capt. Daniel MCCARTY who died 4 May 1724. He was the son of Dennis MCCARTHY and Elizabeth BILLINGTON of Richmond Co., VA then he married 2nd Mrs. Ann FITZHUGH widow of William FITZHUGH and she was the daughter of Richard LEE and Lettice CORBIN.

Edward married Alicia Samford on 27 Aug 1679 in North Farnham, Richmond County, Virginia. Alicia (daughter of James Samford and Mary ???) was born about 1658; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

See pages 44-51 of "The Paynes of Virginia" for more information on John Payne, Sr. He appeared to be a ship owner, as he was paid for provisioning and transporting Burgesses from Lancaster to James Town. He may also have been a carpenter, as in 1656 the county court ordered him to make for the county one pair of stocks and a whipping post.

His date of birth is approximate and is based on an affidavit concerning delivery of pork to Jamestown which states his age as "44 years or thereabouts". This was probably a visual estimate of a Clerk of the Court rather than based on his own oral evidence.

As suggested by the comparatively late date of the Court records relating to his two younger sons, it is not improbable that he was married twice, and that Margaret was his second wife. John Payne had the following children--Richard, John, William and George. It is believed that he had also one or more daughters; but since his will cannot be found, although it is recorded that he made one, it is practically impossible to identify any such daughters.

(Medical):Y DNA Results, FTDNA Haplogroup:

R1b1

A direct male descendant volunteered to have his DNA tested. The results can be found at www.ysearch.org, under the user ID #B3C9R, and the FamilyTreeDNA Kit number is 48173.

More information can be found at the following website, part of the PAYNE DNA, which can be found at the following URL:

http://papayne.rootsweb.com/dna-project/

The kit was #48173, and this Payne group was assigned to lineage 16.

The members of R1b are believed to be the descendants of the first modern humans who entered Europe about 35,000-40,000 years ago. Those R1b forebearers were the people who painted the beautiful art in the caves in Spain and France. They were the contemporaries (and perhaps exterminators) of the European Neanderthals. R1b is the most common Y haplogroup in Europe - more than half of men of European descent belong to R1b. Fourteen of the 30 most common haplotypes in the YSTR.org database are typical of R1b.

John married Margaret ???. Margaret was born about 1619; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Humphrey married Elizabeth Hawkins. Elizabeth was born before 1649; died about 1717 in Westmoreland County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

She was the daughter of Richard HAWKINS b 1641. William PAYNE (her son-in-law) was listed guardian in her will. Elizabeth HAWKINS POPE Married 2nd to Richard Youell and had Harmon YOUELL. Then she married 3rd to Patrick MUCKLEROY.

James married Mary ???. Mary was born about 1624; died before 1704. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]