Larry Carl Payne

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The Duncan Banner ? March 5, 2001 Larry Carl Payne

COMANCHE - Larry Carl Payne, 51, of Comanche, died Monday, Feb. 26, 2001, in Oklahoma City from a heart attack. Service was to be at 11 a.m. today in the Dudley Funeral Home Chapel (formerly Morehead-Goetz) in Comanche with Mike Anderson of Victory Christian Center in Bethany and Alex Costea officiating. Burial was to be in Hope Cemetery in Duncan.

Mr. Payne was devoted to his daughter and son-in-law, Niki and Eric Barton and grandchildren, Jeremy, Makayla, Jessica and Eric Jr. He was graduate of Comanche High School where he played football. He served in the U.S. Army in the Korean War and was a retired iron worker. Mr. Payne recently spent his time doing natural science photography in the southwest where he enjoyed traveling with friends. He was always friendly, enjoyed meeting new people of all ages, and had a zest for life. He will be missed. Survivors include his daughter and her family; and a sister, Marilyn Wetmore of Oklahoma City. He was preceded in death by his parents, Harry Carl and Hazel Martha Payne, lifelong residents of Stephens County. Bearers will be Sammy Dunn, Bill Wetmore, Eric Barton, Stuart Hamilton and Bill Crooks.

(Courtesy of Lynell Cordell)

Larry married Living [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Living

Notes:

Military Discharge of a Harry Carl Payne Jr. is recorded in Stephens County Courthouse Book 3, page 574. Not viewed.

Harry married Hazel Martha Alexander on 20 Aug 1948 in Wichita Falls, Wichita County, Texas. Hazel was born on 31 Dec 1923 in Oklahoma; died on 11 Mar 1999 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

She was first married to a Mr. Bishop.

Hazel Martha Payne, born Dec. 31, 1924 in the Hope community to E.L. and Minnie Alexander, died March 11 1999 in Oklahoma City. She married Harry Carl Payne on Aug. 20 1948 in Wichita Falls, TX. She was a retired food service provider and a member of the Missionary Council for Church, and a Sunday School teacher. She was a member of the Baptist Church. Survivors include a son Larry C. Payne of Comanche, a daughter, Marilyn Wetmore of Oklahoma City, a sister Pauline Middleton of Waurika, grandchildren, Miki Dawn Barton of Clarksville, KY, Bethany Wetmore of Oklahoma, Jon Edgar, Melvin Bullard, Larry Payne, Bill Wetmore, Preston Byford, Charles Hayes and Sammy Dunn,great-grandchildren McKayla Barton and Jessica Barton. She was preceded in death by her husband. Funeral services were held in the Morehead-Goetz Funeral Home Chapel in Comanche with David Hughes officiating. Burial was in the Hope Cemetery.


(Source: USGEBWEB page Stephens County, OK)

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H(arry). C(arl). Payne Dies Today Duncan Banner Wed. February 20, 1957 Pg. 1 Transcribed by C. R. Strong 11-29-2003

Harry Carl Payne. 60, was found dead in his home on Duncan route 4, about 8 a.m. today. Death apparently was the result of a heart attack. A neighbor, Hoyt (Pete) Hardin, took Payne home between 8 and 9 p.m. Tuesday. Hardin, a brother-in-law, returned this morning and found Payne slumped on his bed and dead. Sheriff James Rose reported Payne had apparently sat on the bed and taken off his shoes, then suffered the heart attack. A retired farmer and rancher and veteran of World War I, Payne had lived in this area most of his life. He was a member of Velma Baptist Church. A native of Butler, Indian Territory, Payne was born February 14. 1897. Funeral will be at 2 p.m. Friday in the First Baptist Church here. Roy V. Harp, First Christian Church pastor, will officiate. Burial will be in Marlow Cemetery under direction of Grantham Funeral Home. Survivors include three sons, Paul James of 102 East Oak; W. L. of Duncan route 4; and Carl Jr. of Comanche. Also three sisters, Mrs.(Virginia Payne) Hoyt Hardin of Duncan route 4 and Mrs.(Vera Payne) John Young and Mrs. (Louise Payne) Charles Birnie, both of Roswell, N. M. and seven grandchildren.

NOTE Headstone in Marlow Cemetery, Sect 10 Blk 10 (Lot 9), states b. 4 Feb 1898 (note in obit 2-14-1897) d. 2-19-1957. Assumed the headstone was correct.

Additional Notes from Kenneth Harvey:

There is an infancy photograph of Carl taken circa 1898 by L. C. Kelley in Duncan, I.T. It is in the possession of Lewis Adair Payne (1997).

All of their three sons, their only three children, were in the Pacific theatre of the 2nd. World War and all three were at the battle of Iwo Jima. All survived even though they were in the thick of the fighting. Dorothy Pattison records another son "Dickie" but this is unlikely.

1903-He was photographed at the age of four with his great-grandparents, John and Pamelia Gentry in Alma, I.T.

1923-Mr. and Mrs. W.M. Gentry of this city (Duncan) celebrated their "Golden Wedding Day" Friday at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Carl Payne, a few miles east of this city.

Harry married Caroline "Carrie" Suzanne Cover on 4 Aug 1920 in Stephens County, Oklahoma. Caroline was born on 21 Jan 1902 in Seneca, Nemaha County, Kansas; died on 25 Feb 1984 in Duncan, Stephens County, Oklahoma; was buried in Marlow Cemetery, Marlow, Stephens County, Oklahoma. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Student at Mt. Saint Marys and graduated 6-10-1919. Probably Oklahoma City. Yvette Payne has a picture of MSMA.

Duncan Banner Sunday, February 26, 19 84 Pg. 2. Transcribed by C. R. Strong 11-29-2003

Caroline (Carrie) Susan Payne, 82, Rt. 4 Duncan, died Saturday, Feb. 25 in a local nursing home after a long illness.

Service is pending with the Don Grantham Funeral Home.

Born Jan. 21,1902, in Okmulgee, she was a Duncan resident for 64 years, a former bookkeeper and a member of the First Baptist Church.

Survivors include three sons. Harry Payne of Comanche, Paul J. Payne of Corpus Christi, Tex., and W.L. Payne of Duncan; seven grandchildren and 10 great-children.

Duncan Banner Monday, Feb. 27, 1984 (Courtesy of Lynell Cordell)

Caroline S. Payne

Caroline Susan Payne, 82, Rte. 4, Duncan, died Saturday, Feb. 25, at the Kanakuk Nursing Home after a long illness.

Services will be at 2 p.m., Tuesday, in the Don Grantham Funeral Chapel with Brad Allen officiating. Burial will be at the Marlow Cemetery under the direction of the Don Grantham Funeral Home. Born Jan. 21, 1902, in Okmulgee, Payne was a bookkeeper until her retirement in 1976. She had lived in Duncan since 1920 and was a member of the First Baptist Church.

Survivors include three sons, Harry C. Payne of Comanche, Paul J. Payne of Corpus Christi, Texas, and W.L. Payne of Duncan; seven grandchildren and 10 great-grandchildren. Pallbearers will be Dale Biffle, Louis Chenault, Vic Powers, Jack Ketchum, Earl Wilson, Edwin Ketchum, Lyndel Strain and Sammy Dunn.

NOTE Headstone in Marlow Cemetery, sect 10, in alley between Blks 10 & 20. states b. 9-13-1899 d. 4-13-1924

(Research):mtDNA results:
H (Helena)

Mitochondrial haplogroup H is a predominantly European haplogroup that participated in a population expansion beginning approximately 20,000 years ago. Today, about 30% of all mitochondrial lineages in Europe are classified as haplogroup H. It is rather uniformly distributed throughout Europe suggesting a major role in the peopling of Europe, and descendant lineages of the original haplogroup H appear in the Near East as a result of migration. Future work will better resolve the distribution and historical characteristics of this haplogroup.

HVR1 differences
16051G
16235G
16291T

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Married:
Vol. 6, Stephens County Marriage Book:, Lic. # 112 Harry C. (Carl) Payne to Carrie Cover on 8-4-1920 He was described as of Cruce, Oklahoma

Notes:

Ken Harvey writes that "His middle name has also been shown as Winchell, however Winkle is the middle name shown on this tombstone, and has been verified by Willie Lee Payne.

He ran cattle on land leased from Indian Territory (Oklahoma) Indians. It cost him ten cents an acre. He made a great deal of money out of this. He and his brother-in-law started a bank in Duncan. The checks were yellow and easily spotted in a pile.

In a biography of his brother-in-law, John O'Neill, he was referenced as "Walter, a farmer and rancher at Duncan."

Duncan Weekly Banner
Friday, Jan. 19, 1917
W. W. Payne is shipping out several cars of cattle today. They are consigned to Oklahoma City and Wichita markets.

1919-Walter W. Payne, resident of Duncan, files an Affidavit of Heirship concerning his older brother Samuel's affairs. Samuel had died intestate nine years previously.

1920-A Lodger in the home of Sarah Garrison of Alabama, in the King Township of Duncan. His occupation was listed as Farmer, Home Farm.

1929-Walter W. Payne is buried in Section 10, Block 10, Plot 6, Marlow Cemetery, Oklahoma."

Duncan Eagle, Tuesday, March 28, 1929

Walter Payne Answers Call Brief Illness Fatal to Pioneer Rancher of Stephens County. Funeral Services This Thursday.

Funeral services were held this Thursday afternoon for Walter W. Payne, pioneer ranchman of this section, who passed away early Wednesday morning. Services were at the First Methodist Church at 2 o'clock, with Rev. J. J. Ward officiating, assisted by Rev. A. P. Johnson.

Burial was in the Marlow Cemetery. Arrangements were in charge of Beeson Grantham.

Mr. Payne had suffered an attack of acute indigestion on Monday. He appeared to recover from this attack but was not feeling in the best of health, and decided to go to Sulphur for treatment. He left Tuesday, accompanied by his daughter, Mrs Jack Benton, and Mr. Benton. He was feeling much better Tuesday evening, and Mr. Benton returned to Duncan. Mrs. Benton remained with her father.

Early Wednesday morning Mr. Payne suffered a second and more serious attack, resulting in his death at 2:30 o'clock. The deceased was born in Missouri, coming to what is now Stephens County when he was 20 years of age. He has since lived most of the time at his ranch 10 miles east and 3 miles north of Duncan.

He was also active in the affairs of this city. He was associated with the late J. D. Wade and J. M. Armstrong in the Duncan National Bank and also served on the city council at an early day. Mr. Payne had been engaged in the raising of beef cattle at his ranch during the past few years. He recently purchased two Hereford bulls that ranked high at the fat stock show at Ft. Worth, said to be two of the finest beef animals ever brought to Stephens County.

Six children, four daughters and two sons, survive. The daughters are Mrs. Ethel Benton of this city; Mrs Hoyt Hardin, 609 Maple Avenue; Mrs Vera Roberts of Oklahoma City; and Mrs. Louise Birnie of Shawnee. The sons are Carl and Dukie Payne, who lived with him on the ranch. There is one brother, Newton Payne, of Chandler, Arizona, and one sister, Mrs. A. Scott, of Ft. Worth. Seven grandchildren also survive. Mr. Payne was a member of the Masonic and Woodmen lodges, and of the Methodist Church.

A more detailed obituary was also published in The Duncan Banner on Friday, March 29, 1929, page 7. This can be seen on his page on familysearch.org, and was posted by Marilyn Simmons.

(Research):
Census Listings:

1900 census
Stephens Co. OK (IT) ED 163 pg. 13A
#211/214
Payne, Walter, Mar. 1867, 33, married 5 yrs., MO KY KY
Gertrude, wife, Aug. 1876, 23, 3 children/2 living, TX MO MO
Emma Blanch, dau., Nov. 1895, 4, IT
Harry Carrol, son, Feb. 1897, 3, IT
Mary Ethel, dau, Sept. 1899, 8/12, IT
Martha, mother, Mar. 1826, 74, Wd., 1 child/1 living, KY VA VA

His wife Gertrude and daughter Emma died prior to the 1910 census, and Walter can be found with his sons Carl and John E "Dukey" sharing the home of his recently widowed sister-in-law, Lillie James Payne. His youngest daughter, four year old Louisia, was living with her maternal grandparents, William and Mollie Gentry, listed as "Layease, age 4." His older daughters, Mary Ethel (age 11), Vera (age 9), and Virginia (age 7), were enrolled at the St. Joseph Catholic Boarding School in Chickasha, Grady County.

1910 Federal Census
Oklahoma, Stephens County, Park Township, District 240 215-215
Payne, Luellie Head F W 32 Wd 3/3 Texas Kentucky Missouri
Payne, Maryan (Clyde) Son M W 10 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas
Payne, John P(aul) Son M W 9 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas
Payne, Margrit Daughter F W 6 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas
Payne, Walter Brother in Law M W 42 Wd Missouri Missouri Missouri Rancher
Payne, Carl Nephew M W 13 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas
Payne, John E. Nephew M W 5 S Oklahoma Missouri Texas

Walter married Permelia Gertrude Gentry about 1894 in Stephens County, Indian Territory. Permelia (daughter of William Miller Gentry and Mary "Molly" Evelyn Mounts) was born in Aug 1876 in Texas; died on 11 Sep 1906 in Stephens County, Oklahoma; was buried in Marlow Cemetery, Marlow, Stephens County, Oklahoma. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Gertie, as she was known, died following the birth of her sixth or seventh child. The baby girl, Louise, who survived, was not expected to live.

Marlow Review
Friday, Sept. 14, 1906
Mrs. Gertie Payne: Wife of Walter Payne of Arthur, I. T. died Tuesday morning and was laid to rest in the city cemetery Wednesday. Rev. Burgess conducted religious services. She leaves a husband and several small children. Mr. Payne is a brother of Mr. W. H. Payne of this place. The funeral was largely attended by friends and relatives from Arthur and Duncan. To all the sorrowing ones we extend our sympathy.

(Courtesy of Lynell Gentry Cordell)