Jacob Werner

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Could there have been two Jacob Werner's born to Johann and Judith? Ancestry.com, York County, PA Church Records, 1760-1800: Codorus Township, shows a Jacob Werner born 10 Mar 1782 and Baptized on 6 Apr 1782, as well as one born 16 Mar 1786 and baptized 17 Apr 1786. It is unclear if these are two separate records, or the same original record being transcribed differently.

Roger Cramer shows that Jacob married first Catharina Cramer, the daughter of Helfer Cramer and Sophia Neidig. Chuck Winter shows that he married second Juliana Cramer, also a daughter of Helfer Cramer and Sophia Neidig.

Additionally, Chuck Winter shows that Jacob Werner, the son of Johannes and Judith, died ca 1846.

Interestingy, the 1850 Manhiem Twp, York County, PA census shows there is a head of household named Jacob Werner. This one is younger however, born ca 1805 in PA. Though he is too young to be our Jacob, he appears to be too old to be a namesake son, at least based on the reported date of marriage (1808) between Jacob and his purported first wife, Catharine. The Jacob Werner on the 1850 census in Manheim is living with a 50 year old Cath Werner. Many of the younger Werner's in the household have the same names, and similar ages, to the children usually attributes to the Jacob Werner who married first Catharina Cramer and later her sister Julis Anna Cramer. It is not certain how the Jacob Werner, shown on the census to be born ca 1805, relates to the two older Jacob Werners' shown in York County church records as the son of Johannes and Judith Werner, if he is related at all.

These families should be further researched and documented very carefully, as is is possible that they are or could be conflated or otherwise confused.

Clarence E. Cramer, in his manuscript about "The Family of Johan Helfer Cramer", page 57-a, shows Jacob and Juliana as the parents of (1) Jacob Smith Warner, m. Sarah Ann HOFFACKER, buried at The Stone Church; (2) Aaron S. Werner, born 1825, m. Elizabeth BRICKER, buried at The Stone Church; (3) Sabine Werner, born 1825, m. George N. MILLER, buried at The Stone Church; (4) Amanda Werner, born 1828, single, buried at The Stone Church; (5) Henry Werner, b. 1831, married and "moved West" to Columbus, O?; (6) Jessy Werner, b. 1832, married and "moved West" to Columbus, O? (7) Anna Catharina Werner, b. 1833, m. John C. RUHLMAN, buried at The Stone Church; (8) Emaline Werner, b. 1837, m. George F. SHEARER, buied at The Stone Church, (9) Edward S. Werner, b. 1838 m. Lucinda SHEARER, b. at The Stone Church, and (10) Sarah Ella Werner, b. 1841, m. Eli WOLFGANG, buried at The Stone Church.

The 1850 census Manhiem, York County, PA census has a household consisting of Jacob Werner, age 45, Cath Werner, age 50, Aaron Werner, age 26, Henry Werner, age 29, Jacob Werner, age 22, Jessee Werner (Male), age 18, Cath Werner, age 16, Emeline Werner, age 13, Edward Werner, age 12, Ellen Werner, age 10, Sarah Werner, age 10 and Jacob Werner, age 9.

Another Jacob Werner, this one age 34 (born ca 1816) is in South Codorus Twp, York County, PA in 1850. This Jacob is enumerated with a Margaret (age 32), and children Adam (age 7), Daniel (age 6), Matilda (age 4), and John (age 2). Interestingly, a female named Julian Werner, age 57 (born 1793) is also listed in this household. Could this be Juliana Cramer Werner? Also shown in this household were Henry Robenstine age 36, and George Rohrbach, age 40. All occupants of the home were listed as being born in Pennsylvania.

Jacob married Catharina Elisabetha Cramer on 7 Apr 1808 in St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania. Catharina (daughter of Johann Helfer Cramer and Henrietta Sophia Neudig) was born on 6 Apr 1787 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 20 May 1787 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died between 1811 and 1816 in York County, Pennsylvania. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Married:
Dean Cramer shows them as the parents of Anna Catharine Werner b. 1809, Christened Stone Church with Helfer and Sophia as sponsors, John Werner, b. 1810, Christened Stone Church, Johann Georg and Eva Worley, sponsors, and Elizabeth Werner, b. 1811 d. 1847. Clarence E. Cramer does not show this marriage, or these children.

Jacob married Juliana "Julyana" Cramer on 7 Apr 1808 in St. Matthew's Church, Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania. Juliana (daughter of Johann Helfer Cramer and Henrietta Sophia Neudig) was born on 28 Mar 1790 in York County, Pennsylvania; was christened on 5 Apr 1790 in Saint Jacobs (Stone) Union Church, Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania; died on 10 Feb 1858 in York County, Pennsylvania; was buried in Saint Jacobs (Stone Church Cemetery), Codorus Township, York County, Pennsylvania. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Married:
Chuck Winters shows them as the parents of Jacob b. 1817, Daniel b. 1821, and Lydia b. 1824.

Johannes married Juditha ???. Juditha was born before 1751; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]